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- From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
- Subject: Nitrous ramblings
- Message-ID: <lemayC6xMpJ.1In@netcom.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 21:08:06 GMT
-
-
- 'lo, all.
-
- Two things:
-
-
- Lots of people have been asking nitrous questions recently. There
- isn't a Nitrous FAQ on ftp.u.washington.edu. I've got some free time.
- I'm a writer. Hence: I'm writing one.
-
- Send me info you have kicking about. I know lots about whip-its; its
- just about everything else I need to know about. :)
-
- - N20 is not N02. What is it N02 is again?
-
- - Why is it N20 does what it does, i.e. chemically. Why does oxygen
- deprivation make it more interesting?
-
- - How can you get ahold of it in canisters (the big ones, not whip-its).
-
- - Dangers, rumors of dangers (burns holes in your lungs, kills major brain
- cells, causes menengitis/alzheimers/bad taste in shoes/whatever)
-
- - Medical grade vs. everything else, what are the risks/problems/warnings
-
-
- Secondly, I'm the one that posted a while ago about finding the secret
- to the universe on nitrous, and I should have known that people would
- ask me what it was. :) Its taken me a while to figure out how to
- actually write about my nitrous expreiences, just cause words are
- rather limiting when you talk about the wide expanse of what you can
- understand when you're on nitrous. But here goes.
-
- Before I start, a disclaimer: this is long and trippy-sounding. I'm
- embarrassed as hell about posting it, cause its not at all what usually
- appears on this newsgroup, and a lot of it is wild speculation that I
- find fascinating, even four months after discovering it on nitrous.
- Note that I've never read any philosophy, including psychedelic philosophy.
- I am not at all religious, in fact I'm anti-religion. I'm not sure
- what relevance that has to all of this, but I felt it was important to
- mention. I thought of this all on my own. :)
-
-
- ----------
-
-
- First of all, I need to explain how I start thinking when I've had a
- lot of nitrous. A couple people have posted or sent me mail
- describing the effect as being like uncovering layers, or of things
- being recursive. Those are both good words.
-
- I read once that most major breakthroughs in thought have taken place
- not because of an incremental increase in knowledge, but because of a
- paradigm shift. The thoery, as far as I could remember it, was that
- within a paradigm, incremental breakthroughs in understanding could
- only take you so far. But to really progress someone has to hold up
- then entire paradigm to the light and come up with a diffierent
- paradigm; then the cycle can start over again. The problem is that
- those who end up tossing out the old paradigm are usually thought of
- as crackpots and villified by thier peers for doing just that, and it
- may take years before eople decide that the paradigm-shifter was actually
- right.
-
- The prime example of all this is Galileo and the sun-revolves-around
- the earth paradigm; science had gone only so far in explaining things
- under that paradigm, and they were unable to explain many other things
- (sorry I'm being so vague; I don't remember the details). When the
- paradigm shifted, and it was more commonly believed that the earth
- revolves around the sun, the problems made more sense. But it took
- someone to question that fundamental fact (as it was believed to be)
- for the change to take place.
-
- My point in mumbling about all this nonsense is that sometimes its hard
- to see the forest for the trees; sometimes its hard to back up far enough
- into the paradign that you question the paradigm itself. Nitrous, for
- me, makes it easier. It makes it easy to question things you have never
- questioned before, to step back and see the bigger picture.
-
- But it doesn't stop there. Once you've examined one paradigm and found
- its problem, you've got another paradigm to fool with. And then the
- nitrous makes you examine *that* paradigm. Its like an infinite onion;
- you peel away one belief and there's another beneath it. And another
- beneath that. And on. And on.
-
- I've had many nitrous conversations with myself that dealt with wild
- religious conspiracy thoeries, whether animals think, how it is I can
- come up with ideas for short stories, and many other things I can't
- remember off hand. But my most mind-expanding nitrous trip of all was
- one where I started thinking about perception in general and just what
- reality means.
-
- I started out thinking of the phrase "I'll believe it when I see it
- with my own eyes." Or not necessarily that phrase in an of itself,
- but the idea that truth only exists if we can see it, or hear it, or
- taste it, or whatever, for ourselves. We rely on our perceptions to
- draw conclusions and accumulate knowledge.
-
- But our perceptions can't necessarily tell us the whole truth, cause
- there are things outside those perceptions that exist, but we can't
- perceive of them with the raw equipment we have. For example, 300
- years ago there were no microscopes, and people could not see viruses
- or bacteria. It wasn't until we found a way to expand our vision into
- the very very small via microscopes that we were able to find out that
- microorganisms exist.
-
- There are thousands of examples of bits of knoweldge that we didn't
- know about because we did not have the ability to bring the data into
- the focus of our senses, to perceive it and learn about it. We had to
- keep pushing on the "too small to see" or "too quiet to hear", and so on,
- boundaries before these things came into focus. Therefore it follows
- that if there were things that were beyond the extremes of our senses
- then, there are STILL things out there that we still haven't been able
- to observe.
-
- At this point in my thinking, the onion peeled back. If there are
- things beyond the extremes of our perception that we have only just
- discovered, and there are still things out there beyond those
- extremes, then perhaps it follows that there are also forms of
- perception we have not yet discovered. Perhaps there are more than five
- senses, but we just don't understand what they are because they are
- not as observable to us as the original five. Perhaps there is reality
- out there that we'll never be able to understand because we don't have
- senses that will be able to find it, and we have no way to build machines
- that will open up those doors of perception to us.
-
- Layers, layers of perception and reality. I know it all sounds really
- stupid. I'm reading this over and thinking "ack, you're not going to
- POST this, are you? How embarrassing." But this is exactly the way
- that nitrous makes you think.
-
- After musing about all this for a bit, my mind began to fold back in
- to the present. In order to come up with this concept of inifnite
- knowledge contained in infinite perceptive forms, I had to be under
- the influence of a substance that makes my mind think in different ways --
- that *changes my perception.*
-
- Perhaps, unlike according to common knowledge, drugs don't *distort*
- reality, or pervert perception. Perhaps they are gateways into
- different forms of perception that we don't yet understand. Perhaps
- its only drug users who are looking at the future, at the alternate
- paradigms, at the different ways of seeing things that "normal" people
- may not find for hundred of years or not ever at all.
-
- And if you follow that theory, isn't it sad that drug users are
- persecuted, teased, frowned at, and treated as criminals for not being
- "normal," for using drugs to "escape from reality." Maybe we're not
- escaping. Can you really escape from a reality if you don't
- understand what that reality is?
-
- Five hundred, a thousand, some number of years from now, maybe people
- will say "isn't it funny how the people of the millenium frowned on
- drug use" the same way that we say "isn't it funny how people in 1600
- thought the earth was flat."
-
- Hmmmm.
-
-
- Thats as far as I got on this train of through, or as far as I got that
- I can remember. Things get pretty strange the further down in the onion
- you go while under nitrous.
-
- Perhaps others can take this reasoning and think about it while under
- the influence of nitrous or acid or whatever. Maybe you can come up
- with other layers that I can't found yet. By all means, let me know
- when you do.
-
- Or perhaps you can all sit there and laugh and poke holes in my theory.
- Thats OK, too. :)
-
-
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- Laura Lemay lemay@netcom.com
- writer of trifles in shadows and blood
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